• IsoKiero@sopuli.xyz
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    9 days ago

    Their bases have been about where the tent villages now are for decades. They’re training grounds for new conscripts until they’re moved to die in some ditch in Ukraine. Who knows why they’re more active now, maybe Ukraine is getting pretty good to hit their targets deep in Russia so they need to move further away from the front line or whatever.

    This has absolutely nothing to do with Finland, beyond the fact that our border just happens to be nearby. And should they actually try start an active war with NATO from there, these grounds are mostly in reach of Finnish artillery and our artillery is pretty damn efficient on what they do.

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      They are “fucking with” NATO, historically, but not attack. Lots of “im not touching you im not touching you” on the borders and north sea. Military submarines where they are not supposed to be. Sudden declarations of artillery practice in international waters causing ship travel to reroute, then not actually doing practice…

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        This needs to be said over and over - Russia is and has been at war with NATO for over a decade and NATO doesn’t seem to even realize it.

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          They’re constantly probing to see how much they can get away with without provoking a reaction.

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    If they’re going to attack a NATO member (humongous if), it definitely isn’t going to be Finland. It’s gonna be one of the Baltic states.

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      I kinda hope they’d be dumb enough to get their shit kicked in by Finland AGAIN. Gonna find an entire nation of Simo Häyhä’s waiting, this time with javelins and drones.

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    Nobody seems particularly alarmed by this, least of all Finland. I doubt Putin is going to go from losing a war against Ukraine to losing a war against Ukraine and Finland and the rest of NATO too. Seems like this “buildup” has been there for a while and is only growing presumably because Ukraine is getting really good at striking targets inside of Russian borders.

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      It’s being reported by the “Moscow Times” so that alone makes me dubious about this even being real

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      Even when Finland was “neutral”, we always knew the enemy is in east, and if they were west, they were trying to flank.

      Whole Finnish infrastructure is build on expectation of Russia again attacking us. Hopefully we won’t forget that, now that we are part of NATO, because it makes us less easy target.

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    So if the Russia sycophants use “NATO on their doorstep” as an excuse to forget Russia to invade ukraine wouldn’t this build-up on the border of a NATO country give NATO the same excuse? I’m sorry I have trouble keeping up with the “logic” of Russia apologists.

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      Russia has the world’s biggest border. That’s one hell of a doorstep. And it makes the bootlickers’ assumption that Russia is entitled to buffer states along that entire border manifestly absurd.

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        And here’s the other thing. It’s not the 1800s. Russia has a nuclear triad. Wtf is a buffer state for again exactly?

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      You dont have to. It is all vibe based ideology. Like all good fascist propaganda.

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      This is one of the least informed articles I’ve ever read. Phrases like “From Moscow’s perspective, the Russians need to bolster their defenses to protect themselves from NATO expansion” is just a cherry on top. Lmao.

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    Here we go boys! WW3! Lets watch the destruction of the world order AGAIN. I wonder which side Trump will take? The allies he hates or the autocrat he adores?

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    Tents, shelters for fighter jets and warehouses for military vehicles show increased Russian presence near one of NATO’s newest members.

    Oh no so scary, tents and shelters!

    Rumours has it that the rare tank you see there is non operational too (or they would be in Ukraine waiting to be demolished).

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